newsgroup sqlserver.msde , but no sqlserver.sqlexpress?

Am I looking in the wrong newsgroups, there is msde newsgroup, but I cannot
find a sqlexpress . Should I post questions about sqlexpress in the msde
group or where?
Jan D''Hondt
<Toto, I''ve got a feeling we''re not in Kansas anymore.>
SQL database and .NET solutions
hi Jan,
Jan D''Hondt wrote:
> Am I looking in the wrong newsgroups, there is msde newsgroup, but I
> cannot find a sqlexpress . Should I post questions about sqlexpress
> in the msde group or where?
http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/def...id=19&siteid=1
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply
|||Andrea, Thank you for your help.
One has to wonder : what is the distinction between forums and newsgroups?
does it depend on the season? Are forums more fashionable than newsgroup?
Where are my pills?!?
Jan D''Hondt
<Toto, I''ve got a feeling we''re not in Kansas anymore.>
SQL database and .NET solutions
"Andrea Montanari" wrote:

> hi Jan,
> Jan D''Hondt wrote:
> http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/def...id=19&siteid=1
> --
> Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
> http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
> DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
> (my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
> interface)
> -- remove DMO to reply
>
>
|||Hi Jan,
go for that.
HTH, jens Suessmeyer.
|||On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:20:02 -0800, Jan D''Hondt wrote:

>Am I looking in the wrong newsgroups, there is msde newsgroup, but I cannot
>find a sqlexpress . Should I post questions about sqlexpress in the msde
>group or where?
Hi Jan,
I expect MS to open some new groups for the new features of SQL Server
2005 in the weeks to come; until they do, just pick the group that suits
the question best.
SQLExpress questions are fine here. They can also be posted in .server
or .programming.
Best, Hugo
(Remove _NO_ and _SPAM_ to get my e-mail address)
|||hi Jan,
Jan D''Hondt wrote:
> Andrea, Thank you for your help.
> One has to wonder : what is the distinction between forums and
> newsgroups? does it depend on the season? Are forums more fashionable
> than newsgroup?
Hugo already answered... Microsoft is quiet deprecating NG in favour of it's
own forum, but I do think they will add new SQL Server 2005 ng as well...
I've heard something about SQLExpress ng name, as someone suggested not to
name it "Express" in order to avoid user's confusion about "Express answers"
ROTFL
just a side note... I'd post SQLExpress questions on non MSDE ngs as it seem
Microsoft employees do not attend this one very much, so Setup problems and
the like are not very much probably answered..

> Where are my pills?!?
and where are mine? :D
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply

Newly created stored procedure => master db

I have upgraded my SQLExpress to SP1 but since doing this I am not able to
create stored procedures under the database that I created. It seems as if
any new procs are created in the master database.
If I create a new proc, it is not displayed under the stored procedure
folder. Iit is displayed in the folder c:\mydocuments\SQL ServerManagement
Studio Express\Projects along with the other procs that I'd created prior to
the upgrade.
If I open the newly created proc then I'm asked to login to the SQL Express
again (I already have Management Studio Express open and logged in to my own
database). Once the proc is open , the combo box "available databases" on the
toolbar displayes, 'master'. So it seems I've logged in to the master
database where the new proc has been created. But it is not displayed in the
Stored Procs of the master either.
What has gone wrong? I should be able to create new stored procs in my
database and not in the master database.
Can someone help - thanksLisa
What is happenening if you issue?
USE mydb
GO
CREATE PROC mmmm
AS
....
"Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:430A9254-6539-4C84-8C57-DBC4E3C0AADA@.microsoft.com...
>I have upgraded my SQLExpress to SP1 but since doing this I am not able to
> create stored procedures under the database that I created. It seems as if
> any new procs are created in the master database.
> If I create a new proc, it is not displayed under the stored procedure
> folder. Iit is displayed in the folder c:\mydocuments\SQL ServerManagement
> Studio Express\Projects along with the other procs that I'd created prior
> to
> the upgrade.
> If I open the newly created proc then I'm asked to login to the SQL
> Express
> again (I already have Management Studio Express open and logged in to my
> own
> database). Once the proc is open , the combo box "available databases" on
> the
> toolbar displayes, 'master'. So it seems I've logged in to the master
> database where the new proc has been created. But it is not displayed in
> the
> Stored Procs of the master either.
> What has gone wrong? I should be able to create new stored procs in my
> database and not in the master database.
> Can someone help - thanks|||Thanks for your response. Unfortunately it makes no difference. I created the
new proc and then opened it, but the Connect to Database Engine dialog box is
displayed and I connect to the master db.
"Uri Dimant" wrote:
> Lisa
> What is happenening if you issue?
> USE mydb
> GO
> CREATE PROC mmmm
> AS
> .....
>
> "Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:430A9254-6539-4C84-8C57-DBC4E3C0AADA@.microsoft.com...
> >I have upgraded my SQLExpress to SP1 but since doing this I am not able to
> > create stored procedures under the database that I created. It seems as if
> > any new procs are created in the master database.
> >
> > If I create a new proc, it is not displayed under the stored procedure
> > folder. Iit is displayed in the folder c:\mydocuments\SQL ServerManagement
> > Studio Express\Projects along with the other procs that I'd created prior
> > to
> > the upgrade.
> >
> > If I open the newly created proc then I'm asked to login to the SQL
> > Express
> > again (I already have Management Studio Express open and logged in to my
> > own
> > database). Once the proc is open , the combo box "available databases" on
> > the
> > toolbar displayes, 'master'. So it seems I've logged in to the master
> > database where the new proc has been created. But it is not displayed in
> > the
> > Stored Procs of the master either.
> >
> > What has gone wrong? I should be able to create new stored procs in my
> > database and not in the master database.
> > Can someone help - thanks
>
>|||Lisa
Ok, it is by default. You can change it by using
EXEC sp_defaultdb 'Lisa', 'AdventureWorks'
"Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:16DB04B0-8E9B-4C8C-88FD-F881A31AA781@.microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your response. Unfortunately it makes no difference. I created
> the
> new proc and then opened it, but the Connect to Database Engine dialog box
> is
> displayed and I connect to the master db.
>
> "Uri Dimant" wrote:
>> Lisa
>> What is happenening if you issue?
>> USE mydb
>> GO
>> CREATE PROC mmmm
>> AS
>> .....
>>
>> "Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:430A9254-6539-4C84-8C57-DBC4E3C0AADA@.microsoft.com...
>> >I have upgraded my SQLExpress to SP1 but since doing this I am not able
>> >to
>> > create stored procedures under the database that I created. It seems as
>> > if
>> > any new procs are created in the master database.
>> >
>> > If I create a new proc, it is not displayed under the stored procedure
>> > folder. Iit is displayed in the folder c:\mydocuments\SQL
>> > ServerManagement
>> > Studio Express\Projects along with the other procs that I'd created
>> > prior
>> > to
>> > the upgrade.
>> >
>> > If I open the newly created proc then I'm asked to login to the SQL
>> > Express
>> > again (I already have Management Studio Express open and logged in to
>> > my
>> > own
>> > database). Once the proc is open , the combo box "available databases"
>> > on
>> > the
>> > toolbar displayes, 'master'. So it seems I've logged in to the master
>> > database where the new proc has been created. But it is not displayed
>> > in
>> > the
>> > Stored Procs of the master either.
>> >
>> > What has gone wrong? I should be able to create new stored procs in my
>> > database and not in the master database.
>> > Can someone help - thanks
>>|||Uri
I don't want to seem ignorant but where do I use this. I'm using Access as
my front end and SQLExpress as the backend. :(
Also - I'm not able to modify any of the previous stored procs. If I make a
modification and save by overwriting the proc, the changes are not there when
I open the proc again.
"Uri Dimant" wrote:
> Lisa
> Ok, it is by default. You can change it by using
> EXEC sp_defaultdb 'Lisa', 'AdventureWorks'
> "Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:16DB04B0-8E9B-4C8C-88FD-F881A31AA781@.microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for your response. Unfortunately it makes no difference. I created
> > the
> > new proc and then opened it, but the Connect to Database Engine dialog box
> > is
> > displayed and I connect to the master db.
> >
> >
> > "Uri Dimant" wrote:
> >
> >> Lisa
> >> What is happenening if you issue?
> >> USE mydb
> >> GO
> >> CREATE PROC mmmm
> >> AS
> >> .....
> >>
> >>
> >> "Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:430A9254-6539-4C84-8C57-DBC4E3C0AADA@.microsoft.com...
> >> >I have upgraded my SQLExpress to SP1 but since doing this I am not able
> >> >to
> >> > create stored procedures under the database that I created. It seems as
> >> > if
> >> > any new procs are created in the master database.
> >> >
> >> > If I create a new proc, it is not displayed under the stored procedure
> >> > folder. Iit is displayed in the folder c:\mydocuments\SQL
> >> > ServerManagement
> >> > Studio Express\Projects along with the other procs that I'd created
> >> > prior
> >> > to
> >> > the upgrade.
> >> >
> >> > If I open the newly created proc then I'm asked to login to the SQL
> >> > Express
> >> > again (I already have Management Studio Express open and logged in to
> >> > my
> >> > own
> >> > database). Once the proc is open , the combo box "available databases"
> >> > on
> >> > the
> >> > toolbar displayes, 'master'. So it seems I've logged in to the master
> >> > database where the new proc has been created. But it is not displayed
> >> > in
> >> > the
> >> > Stored Procs of the master either.
> >> >
> >> > What has gone wrong? I should be able to create new stored procs in my
> >> > database and not in the master database.
> >> > Can someone help - thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Newly created stored procedure => master db

I have upgraded my SQLExpress to SP1 but since doing this I am not able to
create stored procedures under the database that I created. It seems as if
any new procs are created in the master database.
If I create a new proc, it is not displayed under the stored procedure
folder. Iit is displayed in the folder c:\mydocuments\SQL ServerManagement
Studio Express\Projects along with the other procs that I'd created prior to
the upgrade.
If I open the newly created proc then I'm asked to login to the SQL Express
again (I already have Management Studio Express open and logged in to my own
database). Once the proc is open , the combo box "available databases" on th
e
toolbar displayes, 'master'. So it seems I've logged in to the master
database where the new proc has been created. But it is not displayed in the
Stored Procs of the master either.
What has gone wrong? I should be able to create new stored procs in my
database and not in the master database.
Can someone help - thanksLisa
What is happenening if you issue?
USE mydb
GO
CREATE PROC mmmm
AS
....
"Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:430A9254-6539-4C84-8C57-DBC4E3C0AADA@.microsoft.com...
>I have upgraded my SQLExpress to SP1 but since doing this I am not able to
> create stored procedures under the database that I created. It seems as if
> any new procs are created in the master database.
> If I create a new proc, it is not displayed under the stored procedure
> folder. Iit is displayed in the folder c:\mydocuments\SQL ServerManagement
> Studio Express\Projects along with the other procs that I'd created prior
> to
> the upgrade.
> If I open the newly created proc then I'm asked to login to the SQL
> Express
> again (I already have Management Studio Express open and logged in to my
> own
> database). Once the proc is open , the combo box "available databases" on
> the
> toolbar displayes, 'master'. So it seems I've logged in to the master
> database where the new proc has been created. But it is not displayed in
> the
> Stored Procs of the master either.
> What has gone wrong? I should be able to create new stored procs in my
> database and not in the master database.
> Can someone help - thanks|||Thanks for your response. Unfortunately it makes no difference. I created th
e
new proc and then opened it, but the Connect to Database Engine dialog box i
s
displayed and I connect to the master db.
"Uri Dimant" wrote:

> Lisa
> What is happenening if you issue?
> USE mydb
> GO
> CREATE PROC mmmm
> AS
> .....
>
> "Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messag
e
> news:430A9254-6539-4C84-8C57-DBC4E3C0AADA@.microsoft.com...
>
>|||Lisa
Ok, it is by default. You can change it by using
EXEC sp_defaultdb 'Lisa', 'AdventureWorks'
"Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:16DB04B0-8E9B-4C8C-88FD-F881A31AA781@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks for your response. Unfortunately it makes no difference. I created
> the
> new proc and then opened it, but the Connect to Database Engine dialog box
> is
> displayed and I connect to the master db.
>
> "Uri Dimant" wrote:
>|||Uri
I don't want to seem ignorant but where do I use this. I'm using Access as
my front end and SQLExpress as the backend.
Also - I'm not able to modify any of the previous stored procs. If I make a
modification and save by overwriting the proc, the changes are not there whe
n
I open the proc again.
"Uri Dimant" wrote:

> Lisa
> Ok, it is by default. You can change it by using
> EXEC sp_defaultdb 'Lisa', 'AdventureWorks'
> "Lisa Tanenbaum" <LisaTanenbaum@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messag
e
> news:16DB04B0-8E9B-4C8C-88FD-F881A31AA781@.microsoft.com...
>
>

newbie: telnet localhost 1433 fails

I don't understand why.
My SQL Server 2005 is called PC\SQLEXPRESS. I use PC\Robert (administrator)
account on Windows XP Professional. I use Windows Authentication. Remote
connections are switched on ("Using both TCP/IP and names pipes.")
Please help. Thank you.
/RAM/Since this is a named instance, the port is not 1433. The SQL Server error
log will list the listening network protocols, interfaces and ports.

--
Hope this helps.

Dan Guzman
SQL Server MVP

"R.A.M." <r_ahimsa_m@.poczta.onet.plwrote in message
news:ejeg8o$oiv$1@.news.onet.pl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>I don't understand why.
My SQL Server 2005 is called PC\SQLEXPRESS. I use PC\Robert
(administrator)
account on Windows XP Professional. I use Windows Authentication. Remote
connections are switched on ("Using both TCP/IP and names pipes.")
Please help. Thank you.
/RAM/
>

|||I see no port number in C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\LOG.
Could you help me please?

Uzytkownik "Dan Guzman" <guzmanda@.nospam-online.sbcglobal.netnapisal w
wiadomosci news:wLE6h.7391$6t.4871@.newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Since this is a named instance, the port is not 1433. The SQL Server
error log will list the listening network protocols, interfaces and ports.

|||You should have a log entry like the example below if the server is
listening on TCP/IP:

2006-11-15 08:11:39.68 Server Server is listening on [ 'any' <ipv4>
10489].

In this case, the port is 10489.

--
Hope this helps.

Dan Guzman
SQL Server MVP

"R.A.M." <r_ahimsa_m@.poczta.onet.plwrote in message
news:ejfqcn$42h$1@.news.onet.pl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>I see no port number in C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
>Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\LOG.
Could you help me please?
>
Uzytkownik "Dan Guzman" <guzmanda@.nospam-online.sbcglobal.netnapisal w
wiadomosci news:wLE6h.7391$6t.4871@.newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>Since this is a named instance, the port is not 1433. The SQL Server
>error log will list the listening network protocols, interfaces and
>ports.

>
>

|||Thank you I found.
Some application I need uses SQL Server 2005. I need to provide connection
string (that's why I need port number).
If I have named instance, shall I have to change my connection string every
time I run Windows?
/RAM/

Uzytkownik "Dan Guzman" <guzmanda@.nospam-online.sbcglobal.netnapisal w
wiadomosci news:yoQ6h.6288$IR4.968@.newssvr25.news.prodigy.net ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

You should have a log entry like the example below if the server is
listening on TCP/IP:
>
2006-11-15 08:11:39.68 Server Server is listening on [ 'any' <ipv4>
10489].
>
In this case, the port is 10489.

|||If I have named instance, shall I have to change my connection string

Quote:

Originally Posted by

every time I run Windows?

You don't need to hard-code the port in the connection string if you enable
the SQL Browser service. This will allow clients to discover the port
dynamically based in the instance name.

--
Hope this helps.

Dan Guzman
SQL Server MVP

"R.A.M." <r_ahimsa_m@.poczta.onet.plwrote in message
news:ejh2j5$lao$1@.news.onet.pl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Thank you I found.
Some application I need uses SQL Server 2005. I need to provide connection
string (that's why I need port number).
If I have named instance, shall I have to change my connection string
every time I run Windows?
/RAM/
>
Uzytkownik "Dan Guzman" <guzmanda@.nospam-online.sbcglobal.netnapisal w
wiadomosci news:yoQ6h.6288$IR4.968@.newssvr25.news.prodigy.net ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>You should have a log entry like the example below if the server is
>listening on TCP/IP:
>>
>2006-11-15 08:11:39.68 Server Server is listening on [ 'any' <ipv4>
>10489].
>>
>In this case, the port is 10489.

>
>