Newsgroup Suggestion

It may be extremely useful for MS to start a SQL Server Service Pack
newsgroup. I've bounced around a number of MS SQL Server newsgroups for some
very useful info.
I noticed that there is one for MICROSOFT.PUBLIC.VSNET.SERVICEPACKS.
FrankM
You know you are in trouble when
the learning curve turns into a death spiralHi Frank,
There is already a newsgroup out there: microsoft.public.sqlserver.setup -
this newsgroup is the most appropriate for posting any issues related to
installation of Service Packs. Did you get bounced around posting to this
newsgroup?
Regards,
Jyothi Pai
Microsoft Online Support Engineer
Get Secure! ? www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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| From: "frankm" <frank@.nxspxm.mallardcentral.com>
| Subject: Newsgroup Suggestion
| Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:59:20 -0500
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| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
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| Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
| Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:302989
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|
| It may be extremely useful for MS to start a SQL Server Service Pack
| newsgroup. I've bounced around a number of MS SQL Server newsgroups for
some
| very useful info.
|
| I noticed that there is one for MICROSOFT.PUBLIC.VSNET.SERVICEPACKS.
|
|
| FrankM
| You know you are in trouble when
| the learning curve turns into a death spiral
|
|
|
||||No offense, but one could spend hours searching for relevent material
in the KB or support or other places on MS site. Just to find days/weeks
later that there was something that did not show up in a Microsoft search or
something that some other person found.
"Jyothi Pai [MSFT]" <jyothip@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:Yv1djTMbDHA.2080@.cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Frank,
> Thanks for the additional feedback. I'll forward this to the concerned
> folks and see if this can be done. In the meantime, please post any
> setup-related issues with the Service Packs to the
> microsoft.public.sqlserver.setup newsgroup. As you've noted yourself,
> readme is the best place to start before applying the service pack. We
also
> publish KB articles if there are any known issues with a Service Pack and
> this would be another place to go to.
> Regards,
> Jyothi Pai
> Microsoft Online Support Engineer
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> =====================================================> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via
> your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit
> from your issue.
> =====================================================> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
>
>
> --
> | From: "Frank" <frm@.nobs.com>
> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> | References: <OOEedKzaDHA.2580@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> <SABa#HDbDHA.2108@.cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
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> 26 Aug 2003 21:45:40 EDT)
> | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:45:40 EDT
> | Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
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> | Path:
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> | Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:303304
> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> |
> | There is no service pack newsgroup to go to. People go to the newsgroup
> that
> | is the closest to the problem they are having with service pack, like
> | replication or connectivity. So, basically to find out about a
collective
> | set of sp issues you need to bounce groups. MS says to plan and test.
So,
> I
> | plan by going through what documentation I can find, like the readme,
> then I
> | go around the newsgroups trying to find posts that pertain to the sp
> | specifically. There are times that people are told to go to another
> | newsgroup when the subject does not match. Unfortunately MS does not
have
> a
> | one stop shop for info about sp problems, planning and gotcha's. Most of
> the
> | time you need to search and scratch for any info in any number of
places.
> | The sp readme is just a starting point.
> |
> |
> | "Jyothi Pai [MSFT]" <jyothip@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | news:SABa#HDbDHA.2108@.cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
> | > Hi Frank,
> | >
> | > There is already a newsgroup out there:
> microsoft.public.sqlserver.setup -
> | > this newsgroup is the most appropriate for posting any issues related
to
> | > installation of Service Packs. Did you get bounced around posting to
> this
> | > newsgroup?
> | >
> | > Regards,
> | > Jyothi Pai
> | > Microsoft Online Support Engineer
> | >
> | >
> | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> | rights.
> | >
> | > --
> | > | From: "frankm" <frank@.nxspxm.mallardcentral.com>
> | > | Subject: Newsgroup Suggestion
> | > | Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:59:20 -0500
> | > | Lines: 13
> | > | X-Priority: 3
> | > | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> | > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
> | > | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
> | > | Message-ID: <OOEedKzaDHA.2580@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
> | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: angrboda.ms.acxiom.com 206.66.66.9
> | > | Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
> | > | Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:302989
> | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
> | > |
> | > | It may be extremely useful for MS to start a SQL Server Service Pack
> | > | newsgroup. I've bounced around a number of MS SQL Server newsgroups
> for
> | > some
> | > | very useful info.
> | > |
> | > | I noticed that there is one for MICROSOFT.PUBLIC.VSNET.SERVICEPACKS.
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | FrankM
> | > | You know you are in trouble when
> | > | the learning curve turns into a death spiral
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> |
> |
> |
>|||Hi Frank,
Thanks for the additional feedback. As I mentioned earlier, I'll forward
this to the appropriate folks and see if this can be done. In the meantime,
please post any
setup-related issues with the Service Packs to the
microsoft.public.sqlserver.setup newsgroup.
Regards,
Jyothi Pai
Microsoft Online Support Engineer
Get Secure! ? www.microsoft.com/security
=====================================================When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via
your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit
from your issue.
=====================================================
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
| From: "frankm" <frank@.nxspxm.mallardcentral.com>
| References: <OOEedKzaDHA.2580@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
<SABa#HDbDHA.2108@.cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
<83U2b.15802$Ih1.5335836@.newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>
<Yv1djTMbDHA.2080@.cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
| Subject: Re: Newsgroup Suggestion
| Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:20:35 -0500
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| X-Priority: 3
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| X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
| Message-ID: <ugXtLBNbDHA.2024@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| NNTP-Posting-Host: angrboda.ms.acxiom.com 206.66.66.9
| Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
| Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:303440
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
|
| No offense, but one could spend hours searching for relevent material
| in the KB or support or other places on MS site. Just to find days/weeks
| later that there was something that did not show up in a Microsoft search
or
| something that some other person found.
|
|
| "Jyothi Pai [MSFT]" <jyothip@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:Yv1djTMbDHA.2080@.cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
| > Hi Frank,
| >
| > Thanks for the additional feedback. I'll forward this to the concerned
| > folks and see if this can be done. In the meantime, please post any
| > setup-related issues with the Service Packs to the
| > microsoft.public.sqlserver.setup newsgroup. As you've noted yourself,
| > readme is the best place to start before applying the service pack. We
| also
| > publish KB articles if there are any known issues with a Service Pack
and
| > this would be another place to go to.
| >
| > Regards,
| > Jyothi Pai
| > Microsoft Online Support Engineer
| >
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > =====================================================| > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via
| > your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit
| > from your issue.
| > =====================================================| >
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| rights.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| > | From: "Frank" <frm@.nobs.com>
| > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| > | References: <OOEedKzaDHA.2580@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
| > <SABa#HDbDHA.2108@.cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl>
| > | Subject: Re: Newsgroup Suggestion
| > | Lines: 65
| > | X-Priority: 3
| > | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
| > | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
| > | Message-ID: <83U2b.15802$Ih1.5335836@.newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>
| > | NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.72.136.177
| > | X-Complaints-To: abuse@.prodigy.net
| > | X-Trace: newssrv26.news.prodigy.com 1061948740 ST000 68.72.136.177
(Tue,
| > 26 Aug 2003 21:45:40 EDT)
| > | NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:45:40 EDT
| > | Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
| > | X-UserInfo1:
| >
|
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| > HSZRWSWKGAY_PC[BQ[BXAS\F\\@.DMTLFZFUE@.\VL
| > | Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 01:45:40 GMT
| > | Path:
| >
|
cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.co
| >
|
m!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy
| > com!newssrv26.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
| > | Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:303304
| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| > |
| > | There is no service pack newsgroup to go to. People go to the
newsgroup
| > that
| > | is the closest to the problem they are having with service pack, like
| > | replication or connectivity. So, basically to find out about a
| collective
| > | set of sp issues you need to bounce groups. MS says to plan and test.
| So,
| > I
| > | plan by going through what documentation I can find, like the readme,
| > then I
| > | go around the newsgroups trying to find posts that pertain to the sp
| > | specifically. There are times that people are told to go to another
| > | newsgroup when the subject does not match. Unfortunately MS does not
| have
| > a
| > | one stop shop for info about sp problems, planning and gotcha's. Most
of
| > the
| > | time you need to search and scratch for any info in any number of
| places.
| > | The sp readme is just a starting point.
| > |
| > |
| > | "Jyothi Pai [MSFT]" <jyothip@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | news:SABa#HDbDHA.2108@.cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
| > | > Hi Frank,
| > | >
| > | > There is already a newsgroup out there:
| > microsoft.public.sqlserver.setup -
| > | > this newsgroup is the most appropriate for posting any issues
related
| to
| > | > installation of Service Packs. Did you get bounced around posting to
| > this
| > | > newsgroup?
| > | >
| > | > Regards,
| > | > Jyothi Pai
| > | > Microsoft Online Support Engineer
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > | rights.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > | From: "frankm" <frank@.nxspxm.mallardcentral.com>
| > | > | Subject: Newsgroup Suggestion
| > | > | Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:59:20 -0500
| > | > | Lines: 13
| > | > | X-Priority: 3
| > | > | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| > | > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
| > | > | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
| > | > | Message-ID: <OOEedKzaDHA.2580@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
| > | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| > | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: angrboda.ms.acxiom.com 206.66.66.9
| > | > | Path:
cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
| > | > | Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.sqlserver.server:302989
| > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.server
| > | > |
| > | > | It may be extremely useful for MS to start a SQL Server Service
Pack
| > | > | newsgroup. I've bounced around a number of MS SQL Server
newsgroups
| > for
| > | > some
| > | > | very useful info.
| > | > |
| > | > | I noticed that there is one for
MICROSOFT.PUBLIC.VSNET.SERVICEPACKS.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | FrankM
| > | > | You know you are in trouble when
| > | > | the learning curve turns into a death spiral
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
|
|
|

newsgroup sqlserver.msde , but no sqlserver.sqlexpress?

Am I looking in the wrong newsgroups, there is msde newsgroup, but I cannot
find a sqlexpress . Should I post questions about sqlexpress in the msde
group or where?
Jan D''Hondt
<Toto, I''ve got a feeling we''re not in Kansas anymore.>
SQL database and .NET solutions
hi Jan,
Jan D''Hondt wrote:
> Am I looking in the wrong newsgroups, there is msde newsgroup, but I
> cannot find a sqlexpress . Should I post questions about sqlexpress
> in the msde group or where?
http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/def...id=19&siteid=1
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply
|||Andrea, Thank you for your help.
One has to wonder : what is the distinction between forums and newsgroups?
does it depend on the season? Are forums more fashionable than newsgroup?
Where are my pills?!?
Jan D''Hondt
<Toto, I''ve got a feeling we''re not in Kansas anymore.>
SQL database and .NET solutions
"Andrea Montanari" wrote:

> hi Jan,
> Jan D''Hondt wrote:
> http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/def...id=19&siteid=1
> --
> Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
> http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
> DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
> (my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
> interface)
> -- remove DMO to reply
>
>
|||Hi Jan,
go for that.
HTH, jens Suessmeyer.
|||On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:20:02 -0800, Jan D''Hondt wrote:

>Am I looking in the wrong newsgroups, there is msde newsgroup, but I cannot
>find a sqlexpress . Should I post questions about sqlexpress in the msde
>group or where?
Hi Jan,
I expect MS to open some new groups for the new features of SQL Server
2005 in the weeks to come; until they do, just pick the group that suits
the question best.
SQLExpress questions are fine here. They can also be posted in .server
or .programming.
Best, Hugo
(Remove _NO_ and _SPAM_ to get my e-mail address)
|||hi Jan,
Jan D''Hondt wrote:
> Andrea, Thank you for your help.
> One has to wonder : what is the distinction between forums and
> newsgroups? does it depend on the season? Are forums more fashionable
> than newsgroup?
Hugo already answered... Microsoft is quiet deprecating NG in favour of it's
own forum, but I do think they will add new SQL Server 2005 ng as well...
I've heard something about SQLExpress ng name, as someone suggested not to
name it "Express" in order to avoid user's confusion about "Express answers"
ROTFL
just a side note... I'd post SQLExpress questions on non MSDE ngs as it seem
Microsoft employees do not attend this one very much, so Setup problems and
the like are not very much probably answered..

> Where are my pills?!?
and where are mine? :D
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply